Reply to the lies of Dai Zhi Qiang (Jon Dyer) by Dr Stephen Yan (Yan Zi Yuan)
When I first came back from
It seems the underlying reason for these posts is that Mr Jon Dyer wishes to
establish an organization around Dai Xin Yi not associated with me. It may be
to make money, or fame, but either way he has taken me as a barrier to achieve
this purpose. To do this he thinks he needs to be Master Yan L C’s successor,
needs to be a teaching certificate holder, and needs to be Master Yan’s sole representative.
This is quite amazing, as according to a very recent conversation between
Master Yan LC and myself, he said that he hasn’t even heard from this person or
his associate for nearly a year. Not even a call for Chinese New Year!
Both Jon Dyer and Master Yan
(if everything Mr Dyer says can be believed) also seem to constantly forget
that Master Yan himself led the ceremony for Jon Dyer to become my Tudi (As per
the photos below). Now it is claimed this broke the rules and am not ready even to teach – and yet Master Yan
was there in the ceremony of me taking a Dai Xin Yi disciple? How can this be?
Below I address Mr Dyers
Blog. The following links can be used to skip to sections that deal with
specific attacks Mr Dyer stated in his Blog and on the forum threads that
followed.
Response to My Meeting with Dan Brooks As Falsely Presented By Mr Jon Dyer
About Master Yan Long Chang
More on Mr Jon Dyer
Addressing the other individual points in the 'Blog'
Response to My Meeting with Dan Brooks As Falsely Presented By Mr Jon Dyer
Regarding my meeting with Dan Brooks, as unfortunately
it seems that Mr. Jon Dyer’s memory is suffering (which may also explain the issues
he has with forms he has learnt):
Mr. Jon Dyer told me at that time that he and Dan met
a couple of times prior to Dan coming into my training room in my office. Now
he insinuates that the meeting at my office was their first meeting.
Mr. Jon Dyer also wrote as if Dan had ‘just came to meet him’ (at the time Mr. Jon Dyer was having a private Kung Fu lesson from me), but for no other purpose.
The fact was Dan called me a day before coming to my office, and told me on the phone that he had won the NZ and Hong Kong Championships, and just had training in Tailand and Japan etc. At that time, I wasn’t sure why he told me that, but I didn't really pay it too much attention, as I thought it was just someone who wanted to introduce themselves. Since I don't do or follow Muay Tai, I was not overly interested.
The next day he appeared in the training room while I was giving Mr. Jon Dyer a Kung-Fu lesson, and after Mr. Jon Dyer introduced Dan, I recalled that he was the guy whom phoned me the day before. Dan came with his Japanese girl friend.
Dan started to express that he wanted to try me on. I then realised that Mr. Jon Dyer might have asked him to come specifically to try me out. Due to Dan said to me the day before, I was of course a bit cautious, so I let Jon Dyer have some light sparring with him first. Soon I could see Dan's moves, and I had somethings in mind from Xin Yi 6 Harmony, so I let him try on me. According to Mr Dyer I was too rough for Dan. Perhaps I was, though it was Dan who wanted to try me out.
Now we come to where Mr. Jon Dyer's statement of events diverges drastically from the facts, regarding the MuayThai Clinch and kneeling, which can be dealt with using Wu Tai Chi. To this day anyone is welcome to try this on me in my classes at any time, even though I am advancing in years!
I let Dan Clinch on me and attempt to knee me (classic MuayThai technique), just he lifts his knee, I twisted his body and dropped him to the ground. He wanted to try again and the same thing happened. At that point HE THEN EXPRESSED an interest in learning kung fu and I invited him to come to my classes, but he never came to my classes at any point.
So now, only once Mr. Jon Dyer is promoting his own
organisation around Dai Xin Yi and many years after the event in question
(through which Mr Dyer continued to train as my student) he is saying that my
technique“failed
miserably……
tried to scratch Dan's eyes…… looked like a fish out of water”, what an ugly
lie!
Not very long after this event, Master Yan came to
Dan is still around, Master Yan is still alive, and so I suggest Mr. Dyer checks again with Dan or Master Yan. (If it didn’t work, why would I use Gerald, and Tony to demonstrate for Master Yan? Why is this something I demonstrate in my Kung Fu and Tai Chi classes to this day as an application and all my students can try on me and each other?)
It seems that either Mr. Jon Dyer has a confused memory,
(which may explain his stated difficulty in not remembering most forms I taught
him correctly), or for some reason made up this lie purposely.
Just think if I failed when Dan clinched my neck and tried
to knee me, how could I have the face to invite him to my big class to learn
Kung-Fu?
Mr Jon Dyer would have you believe that Dan was simply a compliant partner, wanting to show me face. Just to remind people, Mr. Jon Dyer and Dan had arranged that time to meet (in my office when Mr Dyer was doing Kung Fu training), Dan called me the day before talking about his Championships, and yet Mr Dyer pretends it was just a friend meeting another friend! Why did they not meet in other place other time (like after training)? If it was not Dan who wanted to try me out, why would I ask Mr Dyer to do a spar with that Muay Tai champion?
Mr. Jon Dyer is free to refresh his memory with Dan,
and I would suggest that rather than me being in a world of hurt, Mr Dyer will
discover he is in a world of lies!
Now about David Stella, Mr Dyer specifically says in his “blog” that no such competition ever happened! I have posted the winning photos from the competition (and repeated below). A picture is worth a thousand words!
When I teach free sparring I take techniques from Bei Shao Liu, Tai chi, XYLH etc and mix them together for the fighter. So surely there can be nothing wrong to say they use techniques from those styles when they fight and win in free sparring competitions?
It is a sad day to see so many nasty lies from Mr. Jon
Dyer presented as facts to the public after he was disowned by me formally last
week.
I wonder why it is necessary to spread so many nasty
lies, even if his purpose is to promote his new organisation with no links to
me, his teaching certificate in Dai Xin Yi, and perhaps to make money, it is
easily possible to reach this purpose without such things! Although perhaps he
would not gain as much attention without the personal attacks on me?
I wonder if one day Mr. Jon Dyer finds he still can't make proper progress, he would put the same sort of ‘blog’ out about Master Yan LC?
About Master Yan
Long Chang (Yan L. C).
Master Yan is one
of the best masters in Dai Xin Yi, but that is not to say he is best of all my
masters.
I started to learn
from him in 1995, now 14 years passed, looking back all those years. He kindly
taught me everything he knew in Dai Xin Yi. Only two things that he told me he
didn’t learn are Dai spear and Dian Xue Jue (pressure point striking weapon),
which late on I learned from another person of master Yan’s same generation.
It is a tradition
for XYLHQ to be taught in three stages :
To learn the art
and build up internal power is stage one.
To explain all of
the applications and theory etc is the second stage.
There is a
traditional saying: “ 不是成手不开讲”, it means that if a practitioner are not mature enough
with The skill, then he shouldn’t have it explained. But at this stage, even a
lot of skilled and mature practitioners wouldn’t have gotten all the
explanations by their masters due to their conservativeness.
So most skilled
and mature practitioners are stuck at the first stage, even though late on they
became masters themselves, and some of these stage one masters tried to make
guesses by themselves around stage two. There is a old saying in
The third stage is
all about fighting strategies and methods. This includes how to move in when
you face skilled strong opponents. In Chinese, it is called “ Jin Yi 进意”. Those Jin Yi
have been the spirit of XYLHQ since its birth. It has been the tradition that
only a few people could be chosen to get taught this in each generation.
Grand Master Ma
Meng Luo said once, If Jing Yi is not taught to you, it would be much less
effective when you face a strong opponent, regardless how hard you practise
XYLHQ even to the degree that you wearing off your legs by hard practice.
Master Yan L.C.
has good power when he delivers his fist. But he surprised me one day when we
tried a light spar, and he didn’t even know how to move in. when I showed him
what I learned how to move in from my early XYLHQ masters: Grand Master Ji Jin
Shan, and Li Zen Si (not showing him the other and perhaps best jin yi from my
luoyang xylhq master MA hongxian and
Zhao kou Yang xiang lin’s JIN YI yet), he was already quite surprised.
I remembered on
another occasions. I wanted film down some applications of the Dai Xin Yi.
Master Yan said “ok”. He used the way that he did with his martial art brothers
like Li Xue Ning etc. to demonstrate on me. But when I questioned his
application, he said to me: “if you don’t think that they will work, you can
try to use your skill to defend my attacks, and see if they work or not”. I agreed.
When he tried to use his application and deliver his power, they were either
neutralised, or intercepted, and it ended up with Master Yan Long Chang throwing
himself out.
There were several
other occasions as well. I never told my students of these things, but now, I am
forced to put these facts out. Mr Jon Dyer has said that my teaching is
useless, its all rubbish, I have no skills, and I taught it all wrong. If Jon
Dyer accusation are correct, then what would Master Yan be in Jon Dyer’s eyes
since Master Yan was throwing himself out when trying on a person whose skill
was called rubbish in Mr. Jon Dyers claim?
In Mr. Jon Dyer’s
blog, he said that what he learned in one year of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, was more
effective than all the years he learned from me. My question to this claim is:
if Jon Dyer is correct, then why did he still carry on learning from me for
another several years after doing this BJJ? Infact he continued right up until
he wanted to be seen as Master Yan’s representative or successor? Just like
over 12 years ago, if I failed to defeat Mr. Brook’s Muy Tai Clinich and
kneeling, why would he carry on learning from me for so many years?
I remembered on
several occasions Mr. Jon Dyer would have private lessons from me right after
he had Jiu Jitsu lessons. He often would show me the new technique he learned
in the Jiu Jitsu lessons. Just for fun, I would ask him to try to apply these
Jiu Jitsu techniques on me, and I would show him how to defeat the attacks. Mr,
Jon Dyer should clearly remember all those occasions. Now, Mr. Jon Dyer has said:
“my skills are all rubbish.” I know his real purpose in saying this is to try
to tell people that what he is teaching is direct from Master Yan L.C and would
be therefore more effective. I have no problem with whatever claims he wishes
to make of this nature, so why does he feel the need to lie about my skills? He
has tried so hard to make up stories, is it really necessary?
As to Master Yan
L.C, I finished learning the last thing he knew from Dai Xin Yi, “Er Mei Ci”
way back in 2000. But I still respected him and supported him, sending money to
set up a telephone line for his home (at that time in
Unfortunately Master
Yan became a bit impatient with these regular monthly payments, as he wanted
some big money, and he felt that he is already in his advanced age, so he
needed to get rich quickly. He mentioned to me to buy a house inside the city
of
Master Yan L.C
expressed that he would like to bring his wife to come to N.Z for a holiday. I
agreed, and got them to N.Z in January 2007, and they lived with me for 6
months.
I also let him
give some teachings to my two disciples as a reward for their contributions to
the monthly money to Master Yan and the air ticket for that time he came to
N.Z.
For the first
several months, we didn’t seem to have any problems, even though Master Yan
tried talking to me a number of times in an effort to get me to invest in a big
truck for his family to do core transportation. I don’t have that kind of
money, as I got a big mortgage etc to pay. But I still raised 5,000N.Z dollars
for him, two thousand of which was directly from my own pocket. later on I
called lots of my former students to come to our demonstration and raised over $2,000
N.Z dollars more for him.
But strange things started to happen in his last month of staying with me.
Somehow behind my back, my two disciples who practiced Dai Xin Yi (Evan and
Jon) started to set up an organisation of Dai Xin Yi with Master Yan L.C. I was
only told when they did almost everything. This is not the tradition. My
question was that as Master Yan was my guest in NZ and would be going back to
Perhaps Master Yan
is wanting to have more students, so he can make more money, and since I showed
no interest in promoting one style to make money, things started to turn
complicated. Master Yan told a lot of personal topics from my past private life
to my wife, my father etc, and some private conversations from the early days
were spread to my students. However I still asked my nine months pregnant wife
to take Master Yan and his wife shopping to buy them gifts on the day they were
leaving NZ. At the time I was working in my clinic. Master Yan told my wife
about women from my past and made up a story saying that I was seeing woman in
the office in the weekend etc. Master Yan told my wife not to tell me and that
he had said it because, “it is for her own good ……”
Not knowing about
this I took Master Yan L.C and his wife to the Airport. Jon Dyer and his family
took the same flight to
Of course I found
out about what he said when I returned home. So after one call to him
immediately about it, I didn’t talk again to Master Yan for a long time as I was
still angry for what he did behind me. Even earlier this year when I was in
PingYao (near Master Yan’s village) investigating another HeNan XYLH branch, I
didn’t go to visit Master Yan L.C.
Early this March,
I received a call from Mr Jon Dyer. I asked: “what can I do for you?” He said:
“just want to say hello.” At the time I was busy in the office, so could not
talk.
The same day as
Jon Dyer called I saw the first attack in the Chinese Martial Arts Forum from
Evan (my now former Tudi), who along with Jon, claim to be the two holders of
Master Yan’s teaching certificate. Then a Russian guy followed continually
saying that: “Stephen Yan doesn’t have any real skills.”
I was amazed that
three of them ganged up to attack me, and yet Jon Dyer still could smile in
front of me with such a phone call. Evan is the other senior student of mine
that Jon refers to about backing up his blog.
I called Master
Yan L.C immediately. He said to me “I don’t know, I haven’t heard from Evan and
Jon for nearly a year, not even during Chinese New Year. I never accepted them
as my disciples (as to the tradition, accepting grant disciples as his disciple
is a serious offence to Chinese Martial Art tradition), I only gave them some
instruction as grant teacher.
Later on I saw the
photos of Master Yan accepting Jon Dyer as his disciple. Jon Dyer has also said that when the grant
Master is still alive, I shouldn’t accept any disciples. He does however forget
to mention that Mater Yan was actually leading the ceremony when I accepted Jon
Dyer as my disciple. So between Jon Dyer and Master Yan L.C one of them is
lying about who broke the tradition!
When Master Yan
and I talked about our problems, he said: “he was heart broken as he thought
that since I had learned all his skill and no longer needed him, then I kicked
him away.” I told him that thinking was very wrong. I told him that I had
already sacrificed one family for him (my son and my son’s mother in 1998 in
order to bring him out at that time); and I could not let people do it to me
again.
Then he said: “you
told me teacher and student are like father and son, now I did something wrong regarding
you and your wife’s relationship, how could you choose your wife and not me?” I
was shocked to hear that, what a selfish man! I put phone down. Then I wrote a
letter to Evan and a copy to Jon Dyer, and told them that they were disowned by
me.
A week later, Mr
Jon Dyer posted his blog with his disgusting personal slander against me.
It seems that Mr
Jon Dyer is still confused and mixed up regarding facts and his own mind –
something that seems to have been a problem for him ever since I have known him
as a student more than 13 years ago. He has written that I “carry excessive
girth”. As people can see the photos that I posted regarding my recent trip to
China taken earlier this year, this is clearly a lie (as was his statements I
addressed earlier about no such competition in November 2005 with David Stella,
having been a student of mine for 3 years at the time, and omitting that Master
Yan was present and in fact leading his ceremony to become my disciple – which
supposedly breaks Master Yan’s rules). I have trained David Stella to a number
of successful Sanshou Tournaments with the most memorable being his
Championship win for the Australasian Title in 2005. He is still training with
me and helps in both big class and small group training
Mr Jon Dyer lied
about my meeting with Dan Brook. He lied about my knowledge of Xin Yi and would
have you believe that a forward
stance (hu bu) somehow has a 50/50 weight distribution. Anyone with even the
slightest knowledge of physics let alone Martial Arts would know this is
impossible!
Jon Dyer has also
lied regarding my students “building my house” for me. My house was built by a
team of professional builders. My indoor students have only helped me to set up
my garden. They received teaching for free at the time and free for many years
since. Some may have since stopped coming to lessons with me (as is common
throughout the Martial Arts world) but that is not due to me breaking my
promise with them! Interestingly enough, several times when Jon Dyer was paying
for private lessons and he arrived whole I was working in my garden; he would
say “why don’t you ask your students to do it?” He is trying to sound like he
cares about others, when this is obviously not true.
In Mr. Jon Dyer’s
blog, he said that what he learned in one year of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, was more
effective than all the years he learned from me. My question to this claim is:
if Jon Dyer is correct, then why did he still carry on learning from me for
another several years after doing this BJJ? Infact he continued right up until
he wanted to be seen as Master Yan’s representative or successor? Just like
over 12 years ago, if I failed to defeat Mr. Brook’s Muy Tai Clinich and
kneeling, why would he carry on learning from me for so many years?
I remembered on several occasions Mr. Jon Dyer would have private lessons from me right after he had Jiu Jitsu lessons. He often would show me the new technique he learned in the Jiu Jitsu lessons. Just for fun, I would ask him to try to apply these Jiu Jitsu techniques on me, and I would show him how to defeat the attacks. Mr, Jon Dyer should clearly remember all those occasions. Now, Mr. Jon Dyer has said: “my skills are all rubbish.” I know his real purpose in saying this is to try to tell people that what he is teaching is direct from Master Yan L.C and would be therefore more effective. I have no problem with whatever claims he wishes to make of this nature, so why does he feel the need to lie about my skills? He has tried so hard to make up stories, is it really necessary?
Addressing the other
individual points from the ‘Blog’
Regarding Mr Jon Dyer and
Evan having Dai Xin Yi Teaching Certificates:
As
I wrote in Chinese forum, even Master Yan Long Chang has not got a certificate
from his teacher, but of course Master Yan still teaches. So to me it is funny,
because such a certificate really means nothing.
Regarding the initial attacks
on the Chinese forum, and the Russian contribution:
After
the initial attack on me in the Chinese Martial Arts forums, I put a formal
letter to Evan and asked him to forward a copy to Mr. Jon Dyer as well to tell
them that they are removed from the list of my indoor students (disciples).
From
this point on, a Russian guy started to also attack me in the Chinese form. He
has said he is a Dai Xin Yi student, so he must have become a student of Master
Yan LC in the last two years.
In
2007 while Master Yan was living with me in NZ, we started to promote him. I
wrote articles in the Chinese martial art forum, while Mr. Jon Dyer wrote
articles in the Empty flower forum (now Rum Soaked Fist). Mr Jon Dyer told me
that there was a Russian guy who expressed an interest to learn, so I told
Master Yan.
Later
on, Mr. Jon Dyer said that he wanted to organise some overseas people to go to
Master Yan’s place in China, from which he could making some income too and
help Master Yan. I told him “It is a good idea, you need income too, so go
ahead, I support you”. Later on the Russian guy went to Master Yan’s place with
Mr. Jon Dyer. They didn’t tell me the details of this, and I didn’t bother to
ask.
After
the initial attacks online, and after I responded by putting out some facts (I
still have the information), then the Russian guy kept quiet. The following day
they withdraw the nasty posts.
Now however Mr. Jon Dyer has
jumped out to attack me by telling lots of stories.
I would like to go one by one
to point out the untruthful things he wrote.
Jon Dyer has claimed he
represents Master Yan LC when he speaks in his blog, but Master Yan said to me
only a few weeks ago on the phone that he never asked him to do that.
Jon
Dyer said he called Master Yan LC last year and on Chinese New Year. In the
same phone conversation, Master Yan said that Mr Jon Dyer hadn’t called in over
a year! It seems that someone is telling lies here – so who is it?
As an excuse to start these
lies on his blog, Mr. Jon Dyer wrote: “Since my name has been brought up in this
discussion……”
This
is an attempt to give him some supposed authority and justification for his
lies. However I never bothered to bring up his name in any online discussion
prior to that time, so why is Jon saying this?
Mr. Jon Dyer wrote: “I was
always told that Dr. Yan was Yan LC’s successor and his only student…… ”
This
is true in that this was also what Master Yan LC told me many times. This has
never been a big issue for me though, so if he since changed his mind and is saying
something different, it is his problem, not mine. Although interestingly enough
in the Chinese forum, someone called “Bin Huo” has claimed that he talked to
Master Yan who said: Master Yan had originally chosen Dr. Yan to be his
successor…… but now his heart was broken……
I
started to learn from Master Yan in 1995, by then, he told me he taught some
students before. They were all a disappointment to him, so he no longer had any
students, he wasn’t even teaching his own son any more. When he first came to
NZ and lived with me for six months I, as a matter of fact, suggested that he
should teach some students in china as well.
Mr. Jon Dyer wrote: “upon
arriving in
The
first time I took Mr. Jon Dyer to
When
I took Mr. Jon Dyer the second time to see Master Yan LC, we didn’t meet any of
Master Yan LC’s students, not even the one we met on the first visit.
Mr. Jon Dyer wrote: “this is
a big surprise to me as I had been told from Dr... Yan that he was not
interested in accepting any students .”
This
paragraph is very funny, In 1998, before Master Yan went back to
Master
Yan asked me to get him more students on his second trip, which I said to him:
“OK”. I started to promote him in the Chinese martial art forums, and Mr. Jon
Dyer started to promote him in the English martial art forums. I also provided Mr.
Jon Dyer lots of old photos for this purpose.
Mr. Jon Dyer says quite a lot
around the editing of Master Yan’s videos for youtube etc.
To
clarify what actually happened, The editing of Master Yan’s video was all
discussed with Master Yan before the time I had the conversations around
editing with Jon Dyer (Master Yan knows nothing about editing video etc). At
the time the intention of the video, as stated by Master Yan, was for Jon Dyer
to film down something for his reference, he never mentioned about putting it
on You-Tube.
Mr. Jon Dyer wrote: “(Dr Yan)
told him to promise him, he would not let
anyone take any more video……”
This
is untrue. Due to the fact Mr. Jon Dyer had asked Master Yan to videoed down
something without any warning, Master Yan didn’t have an opportunity to prepare
for it. As a result he had taken the wrong stick and the wrong broad sword with
him at the time. Even when he performed these two weapons, he had missed some
movements, so I said to him that showing that performance with these weapons
would make people think that we are not serious (being the wrong shape and type
of weapons). If we want to put videos to the public, we should do properly, so
do it right from beginning. As Mr. Jon Dyer had already put the video on
You-Tube, and realising that he did not get things down properly, Master Yan
decided not to be filmed for a while (this was his own decision, how could I
stop him from taking video if he wanted to, as Jon seems to imply?)
On Master Yan LC not
recognising what I taught Mr Jon Dyer:
As
usual Jon Dyer often confuses himself, and then seeks to blame someone else. I
taught him three warm up methods. The first one was from MAI ZHUANG TU’s XYLHQ,
called “chao dan tian” which means “rotate dan tian”. The Second was called “mo
jin mo jin’ from Dai xinyi , and the third is called ‘xuan zhuan’ also from Dai
xin yi. Mr Jon Dyer forgot that the first one was from the
On Jon Dyer not doing Dai Xin
Yi correctly:
If
Jon Dyer didn’t practise according to my instruction, or failed to correct his
practice, then it is his own problem. My principle in teaching has always been to
tell my students what I know truthfully and correctly, but I am not responsible
for them if they are consistently not able to do it the way that I have instructed
and corrected them.
When
it comes to different Kung-Fu styles, especially NeiJar systems, I am very
clear about their measurements and don’t get them mixed. All my students know
that, however Mr. Jon Dyer just wanted
some excuses for himself to assist with his self promotion.
I
practised together with Master Yan every morning when we got up, and often at
night as well during his six months living with me in 2007. Master Yan checked
everything I did in Dai Xin Yi, and I remember that only two movements needed
to have some corrections. Master Yan had no problem with my Dai Xin Yi, and
certainly did not think it was rubbish! Now if Mr. Jon Dyer got confused and
was unable to remember what exactly he learned from me, then it is his problem.
Jon Dyers lack of knowledge
of Xin Yi:
Jon
dyer has said that “shen fa” is a Dai Xinn Yi tade mark, and that no other Xin
Yi has this. This is incorrect! As I showed Master Yan I have some video of one
XYLHQ branch in SHICHUAN, (also called JIN JAR GONG), that also has shen fa.
Mr. Jon Dyer wrote in his
blog that what I taught him is rubbish, “It was not the money I had spent……for
future training”,
This
is a nasty accusation. Mr. Jon Dyer knows that he often forgot what I taught
him, so always came back for repeating previous lessons. He often told me that
he was bored at home, and wanted to come and train with me. From my good will,
I let him train together with me (Once Master Yan had told me: you can teach,
but don’t let your students see how you train, unless you absolutely trust that
student! My mistake I guess!). Also, often one hour paid lessons would exceed
two hours, but Jon Dyer only paid for one hour. (Of note, I don’t charge my
disciples, but at that time Mr. Jon Dyer wasn’t accepted as my disciple). It
seems to me that actually my time was wasted in training a person like Mr. Dyer,
seeing as he keep on needing to repeat all the lessons so often.
Mr. Jon Dyer wants to suggest
that it is some problem that I practice different XYLHQ styles. I have done a
lot of research into various Martial Arts, and I am very thorough. I won’t mix
them up, as my purpose is to save each as a culture and history distinct though
linked together. As Jon Dyer knows little to nothing about the differences
between these arts however, it is not really worth effort trying to discuss
this with him.
In jon dyer’s blog , he wrote : “when I confronted Dr. Yan as to why the huge
difference in how he had taught me, he acted very nervous……”,
Mr.
Jon Dyer never asked me anything about any differences between what I have
taught and Master Yan’s teaching, even when Master Yan was in NZ. So why would
I “acted nervous…” supposedly after he left?
Now
I have said many times to Mr. Jon Dyer that he had built up a strong root, even
though he often confused moves that I taught him. I said the same thing before
Master Yan came, and when Master Yan was in NZ. Mr Jon Dyer is now trying to
suggest that I was in some way trying to cover my self for teaching him
wrongly!
On Teaching Dai Xin Yi:
Master
Yan never told me that I was not ready to teach Dai Xin Yi Quan as Mr Dyer
would have you believe. So while I am not actually enthusiastic on teaching it
yet, it looks like Jon Dyer’s real concern for his Dai Xin Yi organisation and teaching
certificate is that I will teach Dai Xin Yi outside of his organisation. It
seems he feels the need to discredit me, perhaps to try and tell people they
can only learn the correct style from him? I find that very funny! As I have
shown by posting the photos of the event, Master Yan LC even participated in the
ceremony of Mr. Jon Dyer becoming my disciple in Dai Xin Yi! If Master Yan
thought I was not ready to teach Dai Xin Yi, why would he lead the ceremony for
Mr Dyer to become my student?
On Dai Xin Yi tradition of
accepting Tudi:
Now
we come to the Tudi business, where Mr. Jon Dyer said that I broke the Dai
tradition when I accepted him as my Tudi, (because Master Yan is still alive).
How funny, that Master Yan himself participated in this very ceremony that
supposedly broke the rules!
If
we look back at Master Yan’s teacher Yue Gui Ning, we can see that Grand Master
Yue started to accept Tudi as early as the 1930s, even though his Master Dai
Kui died in the 1950s! So who is telling lies here?
Mr.
Jon Dyer followed me for many years before becoming by disciple. The reason I
hesitated to accept him as a disciple was because I only wanted to keep a simple
relationship with him, which was: you pay me to get lessons, I teach, and
nothing else. I had asked him if he wanted to be allowed to become Master Yan’s
Tudi, but at that time he said “No”, he wanted to become my Tudi, Now I find he
has sought only to abuses this relationship.
On Combat Applications:
It
is a lie again saying that I taught him “little combat applications”. I explain
every movement’s combat application(s), this is my way to teach all Martial
Arts, and every one of my students knows it. If the student chooses not to
practice these applications outside of class or lessons, it does not mean I do
not teach them! (And anyone is welcome to come to my class to see this for
themselves).
Mr Jon Dyer said in his blog
that what he said could be backed up by my former students. He then proceeded
to have his current student James, and a person called Jeremy (a former sales
person for Jon’s associate Evan, who is the co founder of Jon Dyer’s Dai Xin Yi
organisation) to try to back him up. This was all pre planned with the attack
which was started by Evan on the Chinese forums, even though they tried to
pretend their meeting on the English forums was accidental! Considering their
relationship, I am sure anyone reading this is able to make their own
assessment about how accidental that could have been.
Enemies on the Chinese Forums and Martial Arts
World:
Mr
jon dyer wrote in the forum that I had lots of enemies in the Chinese martial
art forum and this caused “ huge embarrassment to himself”, and that this is a
problem for him setting up his Dai Xin Yi teaching (therefore revealing his
true purpose in these attacks!). It’s funny that just when he wrote those
comments, the official Chinese martial art forum authority put a list of peoples’s
names whom they wished to give a big thanks to and say that these people listed
have made a great contribution to XYLHQ and it’s history…
Yes,
I might have made some enemies in the Chinese martial arts forum, as I put a
lot of facts out which adversely affected some people (YU hua long, shun you
hen etc). I also put the facts out showing that the tom table stone was a fake
one, in which a village claims not only their ancestor LI ZI QI was THE FOUNDER
of xylhq AND liu he spear, but LI ZI QI
was also the ancestor of HK’s richest man MR LI JAR CHEN.
When
I pointed out all those facts, those people who where affected used lots of pseudo
names (one person used nearly 25 different names) to swear at me with lots of
low class dirty language. I don’t of course pay much attention to those low
class people, and have never felt the need to be embarrassed by their use low
class language. Why should putting out the facts ever be something to be
embarrassed about?
Those
people not only used all that bad language, but they also threatened me by
saying that if I go to
Mr Jon Dyer also mentioned a
couple of times that there is a Chinese article that I have written which in
his eyes has something not right in it. Why does Mr Jon Dyer not post this on
the forums to let people read it? Many people on the forums understand Chinese;
why so shy not post it, or is he worried it will reveal just another lie of his?
Stephen Yan